tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post5208046479090991172..comments2024-03-27T12:51:12.930-07:00Comments on Woodworking in a Tiny Shop: A Tale of Two ChiselsTiny Shop Woodworkshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-79137435252228440292017-08-08T15:53:54.213-07:002017-08-08T15:53:54.213-07:00Nope Matt, i really meant the 1980s-90s still made...Nope Matt, i really meant the 1980s-90s still made in Sheffield with good steel. Record and Marles have long separated but both names were bought together and re-united by current owner US Irwin . Yes same company that made the famous Irwin brace bits. They shifted production from Sheffield UK to Mexico and now to China. Really, really not as good steel as the older real UK ones.<br /><br />Bob, with Rudy licking my foreheadValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-84939585134209465052017-08-06T09:04:20.380-07:002017-08-06T09:04:20.380-07:00Hi Bob, thanks for the comments. I can't wait...Hi Bob, thanks for the comments. I can't wait to try this one out. When you say the latest Irwin can't match the steel of the 80s-90s Marples Record, you mean the 1880s-1890s, right?Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-33023720903011891382017-08-06T04:32:31.460-07:002017-08-06T04:32:31.460-07:00One last thing, that Irwin chisel is not a "t...One last thing, that Irwin chisel is not a "true" socket chisel, it has a center barbed post in the middle. Kind of an hybrid between a socket and tang chisel. That's why you never see them without their handles :-) And these latest incarnation by Irwin has nowhere the steel qualities of the old Marples Record of the 80s-90s (real Sheffield steel) they are now made in China with a wholly different steel alloy of some sort. Whenever you find the old Marples, buy them, but stay away from these newer Irwin. Your Ulmia may have had its tip soften by overheating while sharpening (power grinding) If so grinding past the edge a bit should give you back properly annealed and hardened steel. Ulmia should be a good one, unless today they outsource offshore like too many others ??? <br /><br />Bob, chiseling away at these chiselsValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-3406917780395863362017-08-06T04:23:34.378-07:002017-08-06T04:23:34.378-07:00oooh you are in for a treat using a pigsticker is ...oooh you are in for a treat using a pigsticker is a lot of fun. Now that is a mortise chisel!! You will quickly appreciate all the little details about this form. The handle shape let you know which way the edge is without looking, the tapers allow the chisel to stay registered but not get stuck, its thick blade allow effortless prying without fears of bending or snapping the blade and etc. It is in my humble opinion the perfect mortise chisel. And truth be known, you only need one, either 1/4 or 5/16 for most work in furniture.<br />Ralph you are the man.. :-)<br /><br />Bob, pounding on my first EOBMC since 2003Valley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-17663358684983738182017-08-05T10:40:48.186-07:002017-08-05T10:40:48.186-07:00EOBMC...English Oval Boister Mortise chisel. Easie...EOBMC...English Oval Boister Mortise chisel. Easier just to call 'em pig stickers :-).<br /><br />kenI'm a OK guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11843155822153452980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-45569927654778243562017-08-05T09:32:33.904-07:002017-08-05T09:32:33.904-07:00So true, Marshal. Somehow he gets a lot of woodwo...So true, Marshal. Somehow he gets a lot of woodworking done by 5:00 p.m. - and that's after working a full day! Then finds time to write about it, too! That guy has got a lot of energy.Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-56559030945269808622017-08-05T09:30:14.565-07:002017-08-05T09:30:14.565-07:00Ken, thanks for the tips on using the mortise chis...Ken, thanks for the tips on using the mortise chisel - I'll keep that in mind. BTW, what's the EOB in EOBMC? (Guessing the MC is mortise chisel)Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-82805359150846554592017-08-05T06:08:26.449-07:002017-08-05T06:08:26.449-07:00We all get a gift from Ralph with the tireless wor...We all get a gift from Ralph with the tireless work he puts into his blogs. Thank youMarshalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13560994749922503865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-81803419205297319742017-08-05T03:02:54.886-07:002017-08-05T03:02:54.886-07:00Just a quick thought on using EOBMC aka pig sticke...Just a quick thought on using EOBMC aka pig stickers. While they are very robust and can take a licking, I have much better results not utilizing that robustness. Tap, tap, leaver, tap, tap, leaver. Repeat until everything that doesn't look like a mortise is removed. <br /><br />Going Conan on 'em slows the process and wears you out.<br /><br />Ralph is a generous man in many ways, the world is a better place because of folks like him.<br /><br />kenI'm a OK guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11843155822153452980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-13230080579557313002017-08-04T22:33:28.389-07:002017-08-04T22:33:28.389-07:00David, thanks for the comments. After I get this ...David, thanks for the comments. After I get this chisel sharpened up I'll have to cut a practice mortise or two. Very interested in seeing how easy it is to keep vertical and how well it chops.Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-49309236139432339732017-08-04T19:09:18.496-07:002017-08-04T19:09:18.496-07:00I have that same Sorby 3/8 chisel! Well I have a f...I have that same Sorby 3/8 chisel! Well I have a feeling mine blade is longer, and the handle is bigger. My blade is 7 1/4 long. The handle is wider than the tang. Yours seems about the same. I have more success with a mortise chisel then a bench chisel. I have an easier time keeping it straight.dphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04585630729611750609noreply@blogger.com