tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post1228808804258752639..comments2024-03-27T12:51:12.930-07:00Comments on Woodworking in a Tiny Shop: Curio Cabinet, Part 1: The Door JoineryTiny Shop Woodworkshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-72372602083247386002018-09-15T10:44:19.782-07:002018-09-15T10:44:19.782-07:00Good point. My wife likes simple designs - I'...Good point. My wife likes simple designs - I'm happy that she'll allow the bead on the inside edge (LOL).Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-27605905834774648392018-09-15T10:42:54.816-07:002018-09-15T10:42:54.816-07:00Hi Sylvain and thanks for commenting. I would pre...Hi Sylvain and thanks for commenting. I would prefer to use a mortise and tenon as you suggest. But with a groove (or rabbet) taking 1/4" away from components that are only 1 1/4" to start with, I need all the glue surface I can get. I think if I used a true mortise and tenon, the tenon could only be 3/4" wide at best. And a mortise so close to the end of the stile might blow out. It was for these reasons that I decided on the bridle.Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-11655712518145157482018-09-15T10:35:09.507-07:002018-09-15T10:35:09.507-07:00So right, Jonas. Personally I struggle with desig...So right, Jonas. Personally I struggle with design. But it's a good exercise to work out the details.Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-41621385801077240742018-09-15T00:59:57.841-07:002018-09-15T00:59:57.841-07:00The mitered joint would be mandatory if you had al...The mitered joint would be mandatory if you had also a beading (or other molding) at the outside perimeter of the door.<br />SylvainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-3981910517038679832018-09-15T00:47:58.798-07:002018-09-15T00:47:58.798-07:00The long term solidity of the bridle joint relies ...The long term solidity of the bridle joint relies on the glue (if not pegged). I prefer a tenon for the rail and a mortise in the stile. Of course it adds one more parameter (or two for a haunched tenon).<br />Your practice joints look very good.<br />SylvainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-67218541652281882472018-09-14T17:56:24.264-07:002018-09-14T17:56:24.264-07:00Hi Matt
I am glad to hear that you'll do it t...Hi Matt<br /><br />I am glad to hear that you'll do it that way.<br />Knowing just how angry I would be myself if I ever broke the glass and couldn't replace it :-)<br /><br />It is funny how such a thing as the design of the door frame is actually quite difficult and takes a lot of work and effort, yet once the project is done, very few people will even realize that there is so much more to it than what the eye will initially see.<br />Brgds<br />JonasJonas Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07787393233185454227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-74335662060411816622018-09-14T17:46:46.479-07:002018-09-14T17:46:46.479-07:00Thanks for the comments, Jonas. You're so rig...Thanks for the comments, Jonas. You're so right about the glass needing to be removable and adding a finish before installing the glass. In fact, after I published this blog I went to the shop and cut a joint just like type 2 above, but with a rabbet instead of a groove. My mind was made up by the time I finished it - I'm going with a rabbeted back, mitered bead area and bridle mortise.Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1321553715454450871.post-34767126431664171662018-09-14T15:35:22.743-07:002018-09-14T15:35:22.743-07:00Hi Matt.
Excellent executions of both joints.
I t...Hi Matt.<br /><br />Excellent executions of both joints.<br />I think the second type is simply called a bridle joint, I guess that if nothing is mentioned everyone expect that a joint is automatically 90 degrees.<br /><br />I have used both types, the mitered bridle joint I normally use for chest lids with a floating panel.<br />"Tradition" suggests using the regular bridle joint for doors, so you have the stiles running all the way as far as I have understood. I think that in theory it is a bit stronger too because of the glue surface.<br /><br />I really like the design you came up with. Keeping the entire corner the same width front and back looks very elegant. <br /><br />In the case of anything with glass I would normally make sure that I could change it without having to break anything up, so I'd definitely go with some sort of rabbet and a small strip wood to retain the glass.<br />It also makes it easier to finish the cabinet without having to worry about the glass.<br /><br />Brgds<br />JonasJonas Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07787393233185454227noreply@blogger.com